Dawkins’ CNN Interview

CNN: Why do people cling to these beliefs of creationism and intelligent design?

Dawkins: There are many very educated people who are religious but they’re not creationists. There’s a world of difference between a serious religious person and a creationist, and especially a Young Earth Creationist, who thinks the world is only 10,000 years old.

Stop the presses!  I don’t think PZ Myers, Jerry Coyne, and Sam Harris would agree there’s a world of difference between a serious religious person and a creationist.  If there is disagreement about this among the Gnu leaders, why do they keep it secret?  Why doesn’t Dawkins spell out this world of difference so we can see if Myers, Harris, and Coyne agree?  On the other hand, since this is a CNN interview, Dawkins might be trying to create the illusion there is no “Gnu vs. Accomodationist” battle.  It’s the “we atheists have no problem with very educated people who are religious” misdirection intended for wider public consumption.

And also, by the way, in believing that Jesus is your lord and savior who died for your sins. That you may believe, but that doesn’t follow from the scientific or perhaps pseudoscientific that there’s some kind of intelligence that underlies the laws of physics.

What you cannot really logically do is to say, well I believe that there’s some kind of intelligence, some kind of divine physicist who designed the laws of physics, therefore Jesus is my lord and savior who died for my sins. That’s an impermissible illogicality that unfortunately many people resort to.

Straw man alert!  I have never met a Christian who argues, “I believe that there’s some kind of intelligence, some kind of divine physicist who designed the laws of physics, therefore Jesus is my lord and savior who died for my sins.”  Dawkins says “many people resort” to this “impermissible illogicality.”  If I was the journalist, instead of treating him like a Hollywood celebrity, I would have asked, “Can you name one?”

Word of advice to Gnus – when Dawkins describes Christian thinking like this, it’s hard for us Christians to take him as a serious intellectual on these matters.

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5 Responses to Dawkins’ CNN Interview

  1. Crude says:

    It’s like he’s somehow managed to reach his 70s without even understanding what Christians actually believe. Is he strawmanning, or is he truly that out of it?

    He also seems like he’s backing off, because to go by that snippet, he’s a hair away from saying ‘religious belief and belief in God can be rational. YEC just can’t be.’

  2. Crude says:

    Also, “Why do people cling to these beliefs”? What a rotten, loaded question.

    Why do people cling to atheism, CNN? What drives these throwbacks?

  3. Zia says:

    I think Dawkins is refering to Fine-Tuning arguments here. Although it’s still an awful strawman.

  4. Alan Fox says:

    I think Dawkins is refering to Fine-Tuning arguments here.

    I think he is saying something along the lines of “you are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts”.

    There is a difference between how, for example, the Dalai Lama discusses science and religion in “The World in a Single Atom” where he allows that in the face of new scientific discoveries, dogma can change and religious fundamentalists who insist on biblical innerancy and a 6,000 year old Earth.

  5. Alan Fox says:

    Word of advice to Gnus – when Dawkins describes Christian thinking like this, it’s hard for us Christians to take him as a serious intellectual on these matters.

    I guess accommodationism is doomed. Let’s try for peaceful co-existence!

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