Getting Sent to the Kid’s Table

Peter Boghossian did his “adult/childs table” schtick on his Twitter/Facebook page:

If you’ve been relegated to the Kid’s Table because you can’t have an adult conversation, I’ve banned you & won’t be able to see your tweets

Some of the comments in reply are pretty funny:

Does anyone else think that sounds suspiciously like a recipe for “doxastic closure”?

I think tweets are what people do at the kids’ table.

Is this how adults deal with criticism in your world?

One of the reasons the comments are funny is because they hit so close to home. When you tell other adults to “go sit at the Kid’s table,” you are not exactly demonstrating an open mind. In fact, the “Get Thee to the Kid’s Table” attitude that appears to define Boghossian’s thinking is not only a recipe for doxastic closure, it is evidence that doxastic closure is in play. For dismissing someone to the “Kid’s Table” is exactly what we would expect from a closed minded person.

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7 Responses to Getting Sent to the Kid’s Table

  1. Bilbo says:

    I wonder what table Raelians get to sit at.

  2. TFBW says:

    Indeed. Mentally collect a herd of gnus together and see if you can work out politically acceptable seating arrangements. Assume that everyone shares Boghossian-style elitism in relation to who they are willing to share a table with, but you can only infer the ins and outs of it through their public comments. So maybe Coyne would be happy to share a table with Boghossian, Dawkins, and the Raelians, but maybe Boghossian and Dawkins won’t sit with the Raelians? It would be like arranging the seating at a wedding reception plagued with unspoken family feuds.

  3. Dhay says:

    Boghossian’s “relegation to kids’ table” can be readily likened to playground cat-calls:
    “You should sit at the kids’ table,
    You should sit at the kids’ table.”

  4. Abel Manning says:

    Mr. Gene, what is wrong with Harris’ quote?

    “Imagine a world in which generations of human beings come to believe that
    certain films were made by God or that specific software was coded by him.
    Imagine a future in which millions of our descendants murder each other
    over rival interpretations of Star Wars or Windows 98. Could anything —
    anything — be more ridiculous? And yet, this would be no more ridiculous
    than the world we are living in.”

  5. Dhay says:

    Apparently from “The End of Faith: Religion, Terror, and the Future of Reason”, by Sam Harris. What’s wrong with that quote, Abel Manning, is that, as you have reproduced it, it is without the context that might, possibly, tell us what Harris is getting at.

    The bottom line (literally) of your Harris quote is that Harris (and presumably you, too) claims the world we live in is ridiculous. Interesting. Perhaps you will expand.

  6. TFBW says:

    What’s primarily wrong with the Harris quote in this particular case is that it has nothing to do with the subject under discussion. Seems like a case of, “I want to win points here, but I have no clever response to the subject of this discussion, so I’ll throw in some irrelevant quote that I feel much more secure defending.”

    I’m pretty sick of that tactic. It’s a complete failure to engage — great for politicians and other such propaganda weasels, but unacceptable in anyone who waves the banner of reason and expects to be taken seriously.

    If you want to talk about that particular piece of Harris tripe, and hear what’s wrong with it, find a relevant place to post it — where the subject under discussion is Harris and not Boghossian, for starters.

  7. Michael says:

    Apparently from “The End of Faith: Religion, Terror, and the Future of Reason”, by Sam Harris. What’s wrong with that quote, Abel Manning, is that, as you have reproduced it, it is without the context that might, possibly, tell us what Harris is getting at.

    Harris is pretty much a One Trick Pony, so I would imagine Harris is trying to blame religion for millions and millions of murders and such mass murder is as ridiculous as murdering people for their movie or software preferences. If Abel Manning can confirm this, I’ll start up a new thread to answer it.

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