NSFW: New Atheist Battle

Feminist gnu activist Ophelia Benson posted a short anti-pornography article and Richard Carrier immediately showed up to defend porn by bragging about his own experience with his numerous girlfriends. Carrier felt the need to share that many of his girlfriends want to be choked and slapped around. He then began to use Benson’s blog as a place to share some of his sexual antics.

Okay, you should get a feel for where this is going, so I’ll put the rest below the fold.

In order to win his argument, Carrier feels the need to get in the faces of Benson’s readers and inform them all that he is “a semen fetishist,” while describing, in some detail, what sexually excites him.
Apparently, this was too much for Benson’s readers, who began demanding apologies. Carrier then begins to posture as if he is just being “honest” and “sex-positive.” It doesn’t work, so the demands for apologies continue.

Carrier then decides to leave:

If we can’t talk about real sex lives when talking about the impact of porn on them, then there isn’t any solution left to any problem mentioned in this post or thread. My recommendation is to get more comfortable learning about what people really get up to and the variety of sexual experience that exists and what it really means to them. And not aim to suppress such frank talk. But I can tell I might be a minority in that opinion here. So, I can simply depart.

Carrier the Victim. So you see, the problem is that Benson and her readers were trying to suppress Carrier’s frank talk about his semen fetish because they were not sex positive enough. Modern day enlightenment.

Anyway, you can read the whole exchange at the link I provided above – just don’t read it at work.

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11 Responses to NSFW: New Atheist Battle

  1. Ilion says:

    Is “semen fetishist” another way to say “gay”?

  2. stcordova says:

    Carrier adds new meaning to the phrase, “he love to get in people’s faces.”

  3. Crude says:

    Carrier adds new meaning to the phrase, “he love to get in people’s faces.”

    Yeah, I guess he thought he’d make a big splash with Benson’s readers, he ended up misfiring and dribbling away.

  4. mechanar says:

    @stcordova

  5. Cory C says:

    The man is a degenerate. Any woman who gets involved with him is asking for nothing but trouble.

  6. Squirrely says:

    Richard Carrier is amazing. Even as a member of a group that includes such legends of egomaniacal absurdity as Dawkins and Harris he still manages to be in a class by himself.

  7. Son of Yacov says:

    So….that’s the real reason he is an Atheist.

    Porn will kill or at best hurt your relationship with God.

  8. advancedatheist says:

    Carrier should show more empathy for all the male virgin atheists out there who have discovered that becoming an atheist doesn’t necessarily open up a world of sexual adventures for a lot of guys.

  9. itsonlyphotos says:

    (Formerly UpstateIslandersFan) My personal experience with pornography watching was terrible to my soul. It requires a great deal of self-justification and deceit. It’s a one-way ticket to self-hatred and also dehumanization of other people…So-called freethinkers like Dr. Richard Carrier PhD probably have their own backdoor agenda of never criticizing pornography, despite the obvious moral and ethical problems it creates for the user and the used. If they criticize it, then they can’t possibly justify their consumption of it. Calling an evil good or assigning all type of virtues to it like aesthetic quality or freedom of expression is ridiculous in my view. But I guess Dr. Richard Carrier can find some way to justify his worldview by claiming everyone else is repressed. After all, his swinging lifestyle is now an orientation.

  10. Ilion says:

    When I was a tadpole computer programmers, one of my co-workers had been a truck-driver in an earlier life. Apparently, he had blown a lot of money on p0rn when he was a trucker — his take on it was that, ultimately, it was boring as hell. He used to say, “There are only so many ways you can [show a woman performing a certain act]

    I think that that explains the well-known tendency of heavy users of p0rn to keep needing to up the ante to get the same “enjoyment” out of it — ultimately, p0rn is boring as hell, and there are only so many times one can watch a woman performing a certain act before watching that act no longer has much effect on one’s libido.

  11. itsonlyphotos says:

    I was never addicted to it, though it could have easily been me. I don’t know that I spent any money on it, but I can tell you it will drive your soul into places it wasn’t meant to be. Fundamentally, I believe sex is very much overrated. People are willing to forfeit their dignity for something that is fleeting and was never intended to be casual. The sad thing is, we often come to this conclusion too late in life, when we’ve burned ourselves out or hurt others trying to get a fix, whether it is through one-night stands or even a wandering eye. The truck driver you describe was great to be so honest with you about it and share his story. It’s never too late for a person to change direction. But for those who are stuck in it, it only gets worse and I think there is some evidence that there are serious impacts on the brain, not to mention problems with intimacy and objectification. One of the many problems with our culture is this idea that sexuality is something that both casual and meaningful at the same time. You can’t have it both ways.

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