Expanding Secular Values

I ran across this the other day: Polyamorous Rights Advocates See Marriage Equality Coming for Them

Here are some excerpts:

The couple – a husband and his wife – are polyamorous, and had just moved in with their girlfriend. And in Roberts’ dissent, they saw a path that could make three-way relationships like theirs legal, too.
“Did you see we were mentioned by Roberts?” the husband beamed as he welcomed guests the day after the ruling. The chief justice wrote that polygamy has deeper roots in history and that the decision allowing gays to marry “would apply with equal force to the claim of a fundamental right to plural marriage.”
“If the majority is willing to take the big leap,” he added, “it is hard to see how it can say no to the shorter one.”


“I do think the dissent by Roberts provides a legal foothold for people seeking polyamorous marriage rights,” says Diana Adams, a New York attorney who specializes in nontraditional family law. “As Roberts points out, if there’s going to be a rejection of some of the traditional man-woman elements of marriage… those same arguments could easily be applied to three or four-person unions.”
Adams says she’s heard chatter of looming lawsuits now that the same-sex marriage issue has been resolved. She personally is interested in helping extend co-parenting arrangements for three or more people to benefit same-sex couples who cannot reproduce with each other, and she says such cases could ultimately break ground for polyamorous families.


Anita Wagner Illig, a longtime polyamory community spokesperson who operates the group Practical Polyamory, says she has long believed that legal success for same-sex marriage would open the door to legal polygamy. Now, Illig says, community leaders can more openly say so.
“The conservatives took this up with great fervor,” she says. As the same-sex marriage debate unfolded, she adds, some polyamorous people “thought it was better to let [gay rights advocates] get a chance to get that done. It was in our best interest for them do so anyways.”


Some Muslims and fundamentalist Mormons have multiple spouses, as do immigrants from certain countries in Africa. These communities generally avoid attention, through that’s changed somewhat with TV programs such as the reality show “Sister Wives,” which follows a family of likable Mormon fundamentalists.

The four-wife, one-husband Brown family featured on “Sister Wives” – only two of whom are legally married – in 2013 won a federal court ruling that struck down a Utah law criminalizing cohabitation among multispouse families. After a significant delay, the state of Utah decided to appeal the ruling.

For some reason, I am reminded of something atheist activist Richard Carrier wrote:

I am starting to think expecting monogamy is the actual problem, just as expecting people to be straight has been.

Does anyone know what the official “Social Justice” position is here?  Where do the Social Justice Atheists stand on this issue?  And it’s too bad the University of Miami does not have its first academic chair for the study of Atheism, Humanism and Secular Ethics yet.  Someone could have emailed him/her to get the “secular ethics” stand on this issue.

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6 Responses to Expanding Secular Values

  1. John says:

    Well, after homophobia and islamophobia and transphobia, I guess in the next 10 or 20 years the new addition to the dictionairy will be called ”polyphobia”.

  2. norfolkfiona says:

    I actually believe, polyamory could quite easily be accepted. What is innately abhorrent to most is polygyny, where only the male spouse is allowed multiple partners. Especially heinous for liberal people with a respect for human rights of course are the islamic rules for polygyny that say a man can marry a second (3, and 4) wife without consent from his first wife, indeed without even an obligation to inform her of new marriages, while at the same time denying a wife a right to divorce on grounds of polygyny. In short, polygamy isn’t the problem, misogyny is.

  3. TFBW says:

    Does anyone know what the official “Social Justice” position is here?

    There is never an “official” position — one can only see which ideas have been run up the proverbial flagpole, and count the salutes. As such, there may or may not be a consensus position on it. It’s clear that SJAs are saluting the “polyamory” flag (it’s all fine if it’s all consensual), but many are still cagey about the “polyamorous marriage” flag. Some are pro and some are con (maybe even sincerely so), but I think that the general sentiment is, “try to avoid talking about it until the rainbow-stripe paint has dried on the gay marriage victory.” If you start pushing the envelope now, you see, it lends credence to all the conservatives saying “slippery slope” in the places which haven’t legalised it yet.

  4. Kevin says:

    Next thing you know, apartments that rent out to 2-adult families will be sued by the federal government for polyphobia.

  5. jayman777 says:

    Speaking of Richard Carrier, it is my understanding that he has been accused of sexual harassment. See: http://freethoughtblogs.com/atg/2016/06/23/the-ftb-ethics-committee-on-richard-carrier/

  6. SteveK says:

    The idea of a FtB Ethics Committee is funny. Do you think anyone on their blogroll cares if they are a “member” or not?

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