Vampire as Victim

From here:

A man who lives as a vampire has said he “just wants to be treated like everyone else.”

Darkness Vlad Tepes, who said he had been living as a vampire for 13 years, sleeps in a custom made-to-measure coffin.

He said he had also drunk cow and pig’s blood, as well as a human blood substitute.

Okay, so the guy wants to pretend he is a vampire.  But here’s the problem.  Are we all supposed to agree that Darkness is a vampire?  If we don’t agree, does that make us closed-minded bigots?

What’s more, let’s say Darkness goes to college and lives in a dormitory.  Does the college have a civil rights obligation to make sure his dorm room has a coffin for him to sleep in?

Of course, it turns out that the vampire is a victim:

Darkness said until recently he had very few problems from other people.

However this changed when he went for a drink with friends at a pub in Oswaldtwistle where he said he was openly abused because of the way he dressed.

He likened the abuse to the attack on Sophie Lancaster, the teenager who was murdered in a Bacup park because of she was dressed like a Goth.

Oh my goodness!  Did someone try to put a stake through the vampire’s heart?

Er…no:

Darkness, 25, said: “I went into the pub with two mates and a lad piped up and asked if I was abused as a child when I was young because of the way I look.

“I felt so ashamed and embarrassed that I would get asked such a personal question based on my choice of lifestyle.

“Everyone has their beliefs and I don’t believe I should be persecuted for following mine.

So someone merely asking Darkness if he was abused as a child was like showing him a crucifix!  He was clearly victimized!  And persecuted.

“I might be a vampire but I just want to be treated like everyone else.

“People have got to accept the fact that what’s normal to them is not normal to us, and what’s normal to us is not normal to them.”

The vampire is trying to impose his values on everyone else.  This leads to a question.

What if someone identifies as Bozo the Clown and shows up in a pub dressed like this?

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Would it be okay to laugh at him?  After all, he is a clown.  Or would it be bigotry to laugh if the clown just wanted to be treated like everyone else?

 

 

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6 Responses to Vampire as Victim

  1. “He said he had also drunk cow and pig’s blood, as well as a human blood substitute.”
    * Catholics drink blood so what’s the big deal?

    “What if someone identifies as Bozo the Clown and shows up in a pub dressed like this?
    Would it be okay to laugh at him?”
    * If one is a PZ, Anita, Rebecca, Carrier, gender fluid kind of SJW, heavens to Betsy no, of course not, that would be clownophobic, grossly insensitive, and a bigoted failure to validate their identity du jour. .

    If one is more of a Hitchens, Phil Mason, TJ sort, fuck ya!!!

  2. Dhay says:

    > Did someone try to put a stake through the vampire’s heart?

    This reminds me of that old vampire joke: “The best way to a man’s heart is through his stomach. So put a steak in his stomach.”

    > Darkness, 25, said: “I went into the pub with two mates and a lad piped up and asked if I was abused as a child when I was young because of the way I look.

    Some of the New Atheists have said something equivalent, that anyone who is religious must have been abused as a child, that raising a child in a religion is child abuse. Add in claims that religious people are deluded, have a mind-virus, are fideists, don’t know their own Bible else they’d be extremist nutters instead of Church of England moderates, are irrational, are incapable of using and being guided by ‘Science’ and ‘Reason’ … this guy’s got off lightly.

    Probably because he’s 6′ 6″ tall.

  3. TFBW says:

    … and a vampire.

  4. stcordova says:

    Asking someone point blank if they were abused as a child is implicitly insulting of one’s parents. Darkness was right to get offended at the insinuation. There’s got to be a more tactful way to confront Darkness without insulting the guy’s mom and dad.

    I don’t know, not that I’d make friends with the guy to even have drink with him in a pub, but I’d say, “When did you decide to become a Vampire?” and go from there. Let the guy just tell his own story. I guess I hate it when atheists have said, “you’re dad was a child abuser”, simply because I said I was raised in a Catholic home.

    “Would it be okay to laugh at him [bozo]? After all, he is a clown. Or would it be bigotry to laugh if the clown just wanted to be treated like everyone else?”

    Yes, with some qualification.

    “OK” is not precise enough a concept in this case.

    It should always be permissible to laugh at any adult for their life choices (like Bruce/Caitlin Jenner’s makeup). I think kids however are off limits. If their parents give them names like Adolph Hitler and make them wear certain clothes and hair styles, I don’t think the poor kid should be the object of ridicule until he’s of age.

    I didn’t like it when racial slurs were directed at me, but my race wasn’t a life choice. If someone chooses however to look like a clown, they have no right to demand people not laugh or ridicule them. They have to respect that people can criticize someone’s life choices and fashion statements.

    It’s not OK for me to laugh at someone having a biological issue that makes them obese. It is OK however if it’s a rad feminist actively trying to get as fat as possible (no kidding there is one trying to gain as much weight as possible).

  5. Stardusty,

    Catholics drink blood with the accidents of wine. So while its substance is that of the blood of Christ it is physically identical in every way to wine, and is made no differently, looks no differently, tastes no differently, an uses the exact same ingredients.

    I’m not here to have a theological discussion with you, just pointing out that drinking something with the accidents of wine even if it is something else is very different to drinking something physically identical to actual blood, or made to taste and look identical to it.

  6. malcolmthecynic August 11, 2016 at 4:26 pm
    Stardusty,
    “I’m not here to have a theological discussion with you, just pointing out that drinking something with the accidents of wine even if it is something else is very different to drinking something physically identical to actual blood, or made to taste and look identical to it.”
    * Right, one is a religious delusion (Catholics) and the other is drinking real blood based on other sorts of delusions.

    Both think they are actually drinking blood. Both have bats in their belfries.

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