Atheist Activists Come Unhinged

As we all know, the atheist activists like to promote themselves as champions of reason, science, and evidence.  Yet as we also know, the supposed love of reason, science, and evidence has failed to keep various New Atheists from going after each others’ throat.  After all these years, the schism caused by Elevatorgate has only deepened.

I had thought that with the election of Donald Trump, the atheist activist community might start to come together against their Common Enemy.  After all, without the common enemy, reason, evidence, and science are incapable of generating any consensus among the atheist activists.  We have seen this with our own eyes.  But not even Darth Trump has been able to heal the old wounds.  In fact, the schism among the atheist activists is intensifying and expanding.

Case in point.  Richard Spencer is an atheist and white supremacist.  Recently, a video went viral on the internet where Spencer was sucker punched.  Atheist activist Dan Arel (who is also an animal rights extremist) defended the attack, arguing it’s okay to “punch a nazi.”  This is not surprising.  As I have noted, given that atheists do not believe in any transcendent principles, it’s extremely common for atheist activists to be guided by one “moral” principle – the end justifies the means.  Arel then viewed physical violence (a means) as being justified because it supposedly served a “higher” end (keeping white supremacists down).

Things get more interesting when activist Jerry Coyne  comes along who is worried about “losing the moral high ground.”

Realizing that the promotion of physical violence is going to hurt the atheist cause, Coyne decides to criticize Dan Arel in one of his blog postings.  Coyne accuses Arel of being bizarre and unhinged and casts him out of the circle:

I guess Arel thinks that gives us license to punch anyone we don’t like. I no longer have any use for Arel, even though at one time he wrote a good book on godless parenting.

Then it gets even more interesting.  Dan Arel comes back at Coyne and is now blaming him (and Coyne’s allies) for helping elect Darth Trump.  According to Arel, people like Coyne are now aligned with the white supremacists:

The so-called alt-right white nationalists have seemingly infected every fabric of American culture, no thanks in part to the media insistence on normalizing such a movement. Unfortunately, the atheist community, one that readily prides itself on rational thought, has not been immune to such infection, and many of the loudest voices have fought to not only normalize but also help amplify the voices of white nationalism.

[….]

They break from the right only by supporting women’s rights, same-sex marriage, and a wall between the separation of church and state, yet the join the right in fighting against feminism, progressive social justice, and go as far as to mock gender-studies. Instead of embracing the political left and the strides it has made in those areas of social justice, Rubin, Coyne, and the like, lambaste the left as extremists, while aligning closely with white nationalism.

Whoa!

Last I checked, Coyne’s fans were bashing Arel on his own blog.

It’s bad enough to learn that, according to various atheist activists, the Dawkins’ wing of the atheism movement is sexist and Islamophobic.  But now they are slowing being morphed into white nationalists.

Interesting times.

And in other atheist activist news, have you forgotten that Richard Carrier is suing PZ Myers and others?  If you recall, Carrier was accused of sexual harassment and banned from various atheist conferences.  Carrier sued and as of now, Myers et al. were able to easily raise $20,000 to pay lawyer fees. And they are gloating about it.

Carrier could be under some stress, as he comes across as extra nutty when complaining about David Marshall’s book in one of his typically long-winded blog entries:

Liars disgust me. And David Marshall flat out lied about my work on public radio. He should be ashamed. But Christian apologists rarely are. They lie with impunity. The ten commandments be damned. Today I’ll briefly discuss that show, then detail what’s wrong with Marshall’s awful book defending the historicity of Jesus……You should also note that I debated David Marshall before, and his epic loss was so embarrassing that he’s held a grudge against me ever since, starting even back then a campaign of lies and lunacy that is replicated in much of his new book…..Anyone who is going to lie like that, effectively to my face, in public, before an audience of thousands, and not even correct or apologize for it, is a disgusting person who can go die in a fire.

LOL.

Carrier eventually removed the “go die in a fire” claim.  His face must have been beet red when he typed that.

Just think.  If only we could all just abandon our Christian faith then we too could be as rational as all these activists.

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10 Responses to Atheist Activists Come Unhinged

  1. SteveK says:

    These people are proof that John Lennon was wrong, the world will not live as one. No imagining required.

  2. Ilíon says:

    Things get more interesting when activist Jerry Coyne comes along who is worried about “losing the moral high ground.”

    *snicker* Aren’t they so darling when they appeal to things their world-view denies exist?

  3. mechanar says:

    but a bunch of narcissists in one room and they will all hate each other

  4. Dhay says:

    There’s friendly-fire criticism of Sam Harris, too, from a Robert Spencer writing an article “Sam Harris and the Collapse of the Counter-Jihad Left” for Frontpage:

    [Harris] began to make it clear that, despite his strong words, he wasn’t opposed to jihad terror and Islamic supremacism in any meaningful way … What kind of a world do Sam Harris and Maajid Nawaz want? Apparently it’s one in which they oppose jihad terror while supporting jihad-enabling politicians. It seems as if, as far as they are concerned, one may speak out against jihad terror and Sharia oppression as long as one is determined not to do anything about either one, and indeed, gives active support to those who are helping the forces of jihad advance in the West.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/265146/sam-harris-and-collapse-counter-jihad-left-robert-spencer

    *

    I seem to see Richard Carrier’s activities somewhat reduced of late; he’s visiting pubs for chats and book sales — but not much else.

    All is not lost, though: he can get more involved in book publishing; Erich von Daniken has published 40 books and made a very profitable career out of “Was God an astronaut?”; why should Carrier not do the same with “Was Jesus an archetypal hero myth?” — it’s not as catchy, but there’s potential there.

  5. Regual Llegna says:

    “As we all know, the atheist activists like to promote themselves as champions of reason, science, and evidence. Yet as we also know, the supposed love of reason, science, and evidence has failed to keep various New Atheists from going after each others’ throat. After all these years, the schism caused by Elevatorgate has only deepened.”

    They roll with the political left party against christianity and common values of the mayority of western poeple and were so stupid that they don’t see the racists (most gnus atheists really are white people) and sexist (a desproporcionate amount of gnus atheists are males) label will be applied to them. Like seriously when you think in a gnu atheist, is poeple that look like the New Atheists that come to mind (white skin, core western values “very paradoxical”, cleary not poor people, social activists, promoters of scientism-materialism “and they roll with it with not problem at all, even if they themself are not scientists or don’t do any scientific research in non-theoric issues”, etc.).

  6. itsonlyphotos says:

    I am amazed at these doe eyed secularist skeptic folks who embrace people like Steven Pinker or Richard Dawkins, revel over the Christianization of the West and yet wonder how it is that things are so and that “hordes”of Muslim immigrants- who are human beings- have made Europe their home. They are merely doing what makes sense, putting down their roots. But secularists think they will bring down Islamic expansion with science and reason! No, they won’t because they have nothing to hold on to, nothing worth saving. In the materialistic world, nothing has any meaning, even the unborn, or for that matter anyone unfit to live. When I hear idiots like the skeptic community online standing up to obnoxious social justice warriors, I have to remind myself that these people also have an extremely vulgar outlook on human life.

  7. itsonlyphotos says:

    I meant to say deChristianization

  8. yonose says:

    Hello there!!

    And the same saying goes:

    Once an Extremist, always an Extremist; once a Narcissist, always a Narcissist…

    … if you piss them off, they WILL at least try to kill you.

    Remember your personal defense training, people!!

    Kind Regards!

  9. pennywit says:

    *Sigh*. People are people. Don’t punch them unless they’re trying to punch you, or they root for the wrong sports team. Even Nazis.

  10. Dhay says:

    > I seem to see Richard Carrier’s activities somewhat reduced of late; he’s visiting pubs for chats and book sales — but not much else.

    Since that comment I have spotted a new post on Carrier’s blog, in which he says:

    I’ll be tabling and socializing at this year’s MythinformationCon in Milwaukee Wisconsin, September 30 (2017, a Saturday).

    Carrier will be tabling and socialisng. It’s an odd word, “tabling”, and dictionaries don’t help out much, but I think we can discern Carrier’s usage from the context of the whole post.

    There follows a list — Carrier’s name is absent — of speakers and debaters. And:

    Special guests likely to be at the [VIP] party (and around the con generally) will include not just the folks just named, but also: [list of names] and me.

    So Carrier is a “special guest”, probably because he had a hand in the mythicist film being premiered at the conference (so could hardly be excluded from that status); and because he is a “tabler” at the VIP party.

    BTW, there is an actual bar at the historic venue [of the VIP party afterwards], in the same room as the audience, speakers, and tablers.

    http://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/12016

    Looks like Carrier has graduated from chatting to people and selling his books from a table in various bars on his way to places, to chatting to people and selling his books from a table in a bar.

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