New Atheist Phil Torres Wants People to Believe He is Not a New Atheist

New Atheist Phil Torres claims he is no longer a New Atheist.  The problem?  He’s finally come to the realization that the New Atheist movement is a hate movement.  Well, when it comes to women, people of color, and Muslims, that is.

As examples of the New Atheist hate, he cites comments from Harris in 2014 and 2012.  He cites the rape allegations among the various New Atheists in an article from 2014.  And he cites a tweet from Dawkins in 2016.

What supposedly led Torres to finally break away from the New Atheists was the hoax article by Boghossian and Lindsay that embarrassed academic feminism.

But here’s the problem.  In 2016 (just last year), Torres co-authored a paper with Boghossian and Lindsay aggressively promoting New Atheist extremism. In other words, even after he knew about the evidence of rape allegations, sexism, and racism among the Gnus, he still willfully joined hands with his fellow culture warriors.  In fact, he has no choice but to admit it and try to get out in front of it:

Yet some of us — mostly white men like myself — persisted in our conviction that, overall, the new atheist movement was still a force for good in the world. It is an extraordinary personal embarrassment that I maintained this view until the present year.

In other words, according to Torres’ atheistic sense of morality, it was okay to team up with people he perceived as racists and sexists as long as they could all direct their hate at Christians.  Once again, the end justifies the means. Torres broke away probably because he began to realize just how toxic the New Atheists have become among the social justice atheists who dominate academia and the tech world.  In other words, he is in damage control mode.

But I personally don’t give him much credit.  Social justice atheists are no different from New Atheists with one exception.  Social justice atheists believe that their hateful mocking, sneering arrogance, and manipulative propaganda should be targeting solely Christians.  And there is not a shred of evidence that Torres thinks the New Atheist approach to Christians has been a problem.

Put simply, Torres is a New Atheist who simply doesn’t want people to think he is a New Atheist anymore.

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4 Responses to New Atheist Phil Torres Wants People to Believe He is Not a New Atheist

  1. TFBW says:

    Social justice atheists believe that their hateful mocking, sneering arrogance, and manipulative propaganda should be targeting solely Christians.

    For the Social Justice types, “oppressor” groups (as specified by critical race and gender theory, so look to the radical feminists for guidance here) are legitimate targets for denigration. This includes Christians, but also males, whites, and people who are normal in terms of their sexuality and gender identity (and yes, I used “normal” there in a manner which will offend Social Justice types, despite its technical correctness). For old-school New Atheists, the legitimate targets were theists, pure and simple. Christianity is merely the intersection of those target sets. They fight like cats and dogs over everything else.

  2. pennywit says:

    legitimate targets for denigration

    As are Dallas Cowboys fans.

  3. Michael says:

    For the Social Justice types, “oppressor” groups (as specified by critical race and gender theory, so look to the radical feminists for guidance here) are legitimate targets for denigration. This includes Christians, but also males, whites, and people who are normal in terms of their sexuality and gender identity (and yes, I used “normal” there in a manner which will offend Social Justice types, despite its technical correctness).

    Agreed. Of course, I’d like to see a social justice type explain how Christians in China, Africa, or the Middle East are oppressor groups. Come to think of it, social justice types have a long track record of being oppressors.

  4. Dhay says:

    > New Atheist Phil Torres claims he is no longer a New Atheist.

    PZ Meyers, too; in his blog post, “The New Atheism is dead. Long live atheism”, Meyers declares himself no longer a New Atheist:

    That’s the bad news. Here’s the good news.

    That version of atheism that is all neocon, libertarian, anti-feminist, and smug cult of personality crap? It has conveniently lumped itself together under the label of “New Atheism”. Reject it. Repudiate it. Scorn it as being soooo 2005.

    I say this as a former proud New Atheist, but New Atheist no more.

    https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2017/07/31/the-new-atheism-is-dead-long-live-atheism/

    Nah, they are both just repudiating the New Atheist figureheads; and each of the two declaring himself no longer one of those figureheads. What difference does a mere change of self-label make. But it’s interesting how strongly both obviously now feel about those they had openly and eagerly shared a label with.

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