The Endless Atheist Wars

When watching the longtime atheist wars flare up with the latest allegations of sexual misconduct, this time by Lawrence Krauss, we might want to consider that this war is not some transitory bug in the atheist activist community – it’s a feature.

To appreciate that, consider how this type of dispute is going to be perceived by a typical godless male. For him, there are no gods. Thus, there is no objective basis for morality. We invent our own purpose and meaning and choose our own moral system. As such, there is nothing that is part of our larger reality to constrain that sexual hunger and drive. To borrow a Freudian concept, the Id is unleashed. From the Christian perspective, the sin of lust is unleashed.

Of course, it’s not quite correct to say that the Id or Lust is completely “unleashed.” We have to live together in a civilized society. We have to get along, at least to some degree. Yet it is nothing more than those pragmatic considerations that constrain the hunger and the typical sexually hungry godless male will lean toward pushing the boundaries of these ever changing social constraints. After all, the hunger is taught that all sex is deemed good and desirable as long as one, and only one, constraint is applied – it must occur between consenting individuals. As long as consent is given, it doesn’t matter if you don’t know the woman, it doesn’t matter if she has a boyfriend or husband, it doesn’t matter if you yourself have a wife or girlfriend. In the godless universe, there is nothing wrong with that sex as long as you have the “consent.”

And therein lies the perpetual fuel for the atheist wars. This is precisely why all of these disputes and allegations involving atheists at conferences and atheist leaders all revolve around “consent.” The men thought they had it, or did something that did not need it, and the women disagree.

For the atheist wars to finally burn out, the godless would all have to reach a near universal agreement on when male sexual behavior requires consent. But they won’t. Because they can’t. Because these are purely subjective considerations, where the line for everyone, male and female, is not going to be the same.

What’s more, I notice that when it comes to the allegations against Krauss, and indeed all the atheist personalities, it almost always seems to be about a man expressing some type of sexual interest in a woman he does not know or barely knows. The godless hook-up culture. Which of course, just happens to be the context where something as subjective as consent is also going to be most vague. The godless males will continue probing for opportunities to feed their sexual hunger, encouraged by the words and actions of some atheist leaders and, sooner or later, they will find themselves in a situation where consent could not be any more vague.

Have fun with that one.

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5 Responses to The Endless Atheist Wars

  1. TFBW says:

    … I notice that when it comes to the allegations against Krauss, and indeed all the atheist personalities, it almost always seems to be about a man expressing some type of sexual interest …

    In other words, the act of seeking consent is itself the objectionable behaviour in most cases. That’s why it’s “sexual harassment/misconduct” and not “rape”. Have fun with that one, indeed. Must you first obtain consent to obtain consent, or will the act of seeking that meta-consent also count as misconduct? Of course it will. There’s absolutely no way to win this situation absent the godlike ability to know in advance whether any particular form of advance will be welcome or unwelcome. Sexual liberation in a nutshell. No wonder MGTOW is a thing.

  2. Mark Plus says:

    Sexual freedom simply doesn’t work for unattractive men like Michael Shermer, Lawrence Krauss and the guy who tried to pick up Rebecca Watson in a hotel elevator.

    It only works for atheist Chads. The women who have sexual encounters with these men don’t complain about it afterwards because they don’t feel that these men took advantage of them.

  3. Michael says:

    There’s absolutely no way to win this situation absent the godlike ability to know in advance whether any particular form of advance will be welcome or unwelcome.

    What’s more, they also need to be able to see into the future. The godless girl Joe Atheist met at the Atheist conference and who consented to having a night of sex might remember it differently two years later after joining up with the social justice crowd.

  4. TFBW says:

    What’s more, they also need to be able to see into the future.

    Oh yes. Might need to get the consent in writing with witnesses. Even then, there’s no guarantee that folks won’t condone retroactive withdrawal of consent. Free sex can be really expensive. Prostitutes, at least, have financial incentive to stick to their usual terms and conditions.

  5. nsr says:

    It’s almost as if sex is something that’s best reserved until a stable, long-term, mutually committed relationship is in place.

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