Was Dawkins Poe’d Again?

Tweety Dawk is back:

One problem.  I can’t find a positiva.tea anywhere on Twitter.  When I google “positiva.tea” there is an instagram account which is now deleted.  When I search google images for “positiva.tea”, I find the twitter image for positiva tea and it is listed at https://www.pictaramphotos.com under #bogus medias (check for yourself).

Could we be dealing with another Poe?

 

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9 Responses to Was Dawkins Poe’d Again?

  1. TFBW says:

    The source of the brouhaha seems to be an account by the name of Michael Sherlock on Instagram. https://www.instagram.com/michael_a_sherlock/

    By the look of it, the comment in question was made on a Hawking-related meme he posted. He screen-capped the comment and posted it as a separate image, which Dawkins then picked up on. The “positiva.tea” user probably got so dog-piled by outraged atheists that he/she deleted the account. It may also be the case that the account was hacked and deleted. I never use Instagram, so I couldn’t comment on their security practices.

    In any case, the account deletion took with it all comments and other materials associated with that account, and I can’t find any archives. It’s a bit hard to draw any solid conclusions from one short, solitary comment. Maybe Poe, maybe not. There’s nothing glaringly suspicious about it.

  2. John Branyan says:

    Dawkins won’t debate William Lane Craig but he never backs down from a fight with unknown Twitter trolls.

  3. Regual Llegna says:

    “Hate at this pathological level demands explanation beyond the obvious low intelligence.”

    – But this is what he want for everybody, demand evidence so trust or faith is not needed at all, only the utility of the knowledge.

    “I suggest that Godnuts are secretly unconfident of their beliefs & mortally terrified they might be wrong.”

    – Is this the suggestion of an skeptic person, a opinion about others, a “problem”. Did he not say that if people are too confident in their belief are close minded.

    “This translates into hyper-extreme hate of anyone who credibly boosts their doubts.”

    – A hypothesis, about other people emotions, maybe this explain his own doubt in the need for the “taboo” in the act of canibalism. And a “… hyper-extreme hate…” that does’t include any posible attacks to the target so don’t heve any negative effect on it, even from the point of view of the “attacker”: “.. Too late for him.”.

    – If the person says that Hawking is in heaven then Dawkins will still complain about it, but that is not incendiary like negative emotions about a death person.

    – If Dawkins truly don’t believe in hell why he complain about what this person says, Sthepen Hawking is dead -end point, literally from atheist point of view- is existence as ended and from the living he don’t exist anymore is only a memory a memory that will change.

  4. Ilíon says:

    Hate at this pathological level demands explanation beyond the obvious low intelligence. I suggest that Godnuts are secretly unconfident of their beliefs & mortally terrified they might be wrong.

    Methinks the lady doth project too much.

  5. Michael says:

    The source of the brouhaha seems to be an account by the name of Michael Sherlock on Instagram. https://www.instagram.com/michael_a_sherlock/

    Thanks.

    The bottom line is that there are three explanations for the source of the comment: a Christian, a troll, or a Poe. There is no evidence that even suggests it is more likely to have come from a Christian than a troll or Poe. This is solid.

    To this I would add there are some clues that suggest it was more likely to be troll or Poe. (but in the end, we shall never know the truth).

    1. The comment itself looks like a troll wink. The handle is “positiva.tea” which is clearly a play on “positivity.” Yet the comment itself was negative and dark. Many of the atheist responses noted the irony, which was, er, the point, if it was a troll. Trolls love their irony.

    2. The profile picture that positiva.tea used for their instagram account can be found here.

    It strikes me as satire – a person holding out some positiva tea while hiding behind bars. The picture itself is…..ironic. It’s hard for me to see a Bible-thumping Christian choosing this satire/irony as their profile pic. It’s more in line with a clever troll.

    3. If you read the comments section of Michael Sherlock’s instagram account, judging from the replies, it looks like positiva.tea left at least one more comment in which he/she a) quoted the Bible and b) made the dumb argument that Christianity is true because the majority believe it. Trolls like to put dumb arguments in the mouths of the Christian personas.

    4. positiva.tea had a very light internet footprint. Apart from this incident, and an instagram account that had 7 postings and 59 followers (according to google), there is no trace of this person on the internet. Whoever this person was, they were clearly not a loud mouth evangelist trying to spread the word with a history of engaging atheists.

    5. Finally, Michael Sherlock is an obscure figure who posts mostly extreme atheist memes. His instagram account has only 470 followers and his instagram postings typically yield no comments. It’s safe to say that among the small number people who know of Michael Sherlock, most are atheists.
    Who is more likely to stumble upon Michael Sherlock’s obscure instagram meme about Hawkings? A fellow atheist who already follows him or some obscure Christian who doesn’t post anywhere but decides to make dumb arguments on Sherlock’s instagram account while using ironic profile pics?
    It’s just more likely that atheist trolls and Poes would have seen the obscure posting than Christians.

  6. TFBW says:

    Point five is solid. Irascible activists attract trolls because they are such easy targets. If you have an account which mostly posts atheist memes, you may as well hang out a sign that says, “troll me”.

  7. Michael says:

    Point five is solid. Irascible activists attract trolls because they are such easy targets. If you have an account which mostly posts atheist memes, you may as well hang out a sign that says, “troll me”.

    Yep.

  8. pennywit says:

    I don’t know from poe or troll, although I’ve gotten used to one or two twits showing up whenever a famous atheist dies to remind us he’s going to hell. Typically, I just take them in stride and move on.

  9. Ilíon says:

    ^ Isn’t it amazing, or at least amusing, that ‘atheists’ never seem to figure out that comments such as those *demonstrate* that ‘atheists’ themselves don’t really believe their materialistic/deterministic BS?

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