Atheist Activists Selling their “Hate Mail” Again

About five years ago, Bonnie Weinstein, from the MRFF (an atheist activist group) wrote a book entitled, “To the Far Right Christian Hater … You Can Be a Good Speller or a Hater, But You Can’t Be Both: Official Hate Mail, Threats, and Criticism From the Archives of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation.” Well, she’s back with a new book entitled, “When Christians Break Bad: Letters from the Insane, Inane, and Profane.”   Atheist activist, Hemant Mehta, excitedly and uncritically promotes it. Yet the core problem with such books remains, five years after I explained it:

I have a problem with all of this. As one who values critical and scientific thinking, I cannot get past the simple fact that there is no evidence all of this hate mail, or even most of this hate mail, came from people who would call themselves Christians. The only evidence to support this hypothesis is the wording of the letters themselves. In other words, the letters are supposed to sound like they came from raging, ignorant, foul-mouthed Christians. Yet this sliver of evidence only exists if we have the willingness to take these letters at face value; we must accept on faith that the letters are legitimate. Yet there is an equally plausible alternative explanation – most of this hate mail comes from atheists trying to sound like raging, ignorant, foul-mouthed Christians. In other words, street theater to help further their agenda by a) making atheists look like victims and b) reinforcing their negative stereotypes and portrayals of Christians.

Since the wording of the letters can be explained by real raging, ignorant, foul-mouthed Christians or atheists pretending to be raging, ignorant, foul-mouthed Christians, we need independent, supportive evidence.

In other words, the atheist activists never make an effort to control for the ever popular Poe’s Law.  Then again, the upside to all that “hate mail” is that you can use it to sell a few books.

My advice for the day –  Don’t be like a Gullible Atheist; practice a healthy dose of skepticism.

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7 Responses to Atheist Activists Selling their “Hate Mail” Again

  1. unclesporkums says:

    “Trustworthy”

  2. unclesporkums says:

    Oh, boy.. There’s a shock…

  3. nsr says:

    Everybody knows atheists are too smart to be conned out of their hard-earned by smooth-tongued charlatans.

  4. Dhay says:

    I see from the publisher’s blurb that:

    From the seven-time Nobel Peace Prize nominated Military Religious Freedom Foundation’s official archives comes this second jaw-dropping collection of hate mail, threats, and criticisms …

    https://www.amazon.com/When-Christians-Break-Bad-Letters/dp/1644280485

    Really? The Nobel Peace Prize? One wonders at the mentality and triviality of anyone who would nominate the MRFF for the Nobel Peace Prize; and do so seven times (so far.) Surely nobody would suppose a watchdog group and advocacy organization would stand comparison with – well, I don’t actually know what, but if there are not a host of obviously far more likely candidates we’re probably doomed, doomed I tell you.

    It’s hardly as if the MRFF contributes significantly towards world peace, and unless what Michael Weinstein describes as a “small subset” is extraordinarily over-represented in the US military, it targets a similarly “small subset” of that military who are jerks:

    Weinstein describes the group’s target as “a small subset of Fundamentalist Christianity that’s called premilliennial, dispensational, reconstructionist, dominionist, fundamentalist, or just Dominionist Christianity.”

    Weinstein quote from “With God on Our Side” Talk given July 10, 2007 – (Wiki)

    … and …

    He further characterized their target as “incredibly well-funded gangs of fundamentalist Christian monsters who terrorize their fellow Americans by forcing their weaponized and twisted version of Christianity upon their helpless subordinates in our nation’s armed forces.”

    Weinstein quote from (April 16, 2013). “Fundamentalist Christian Monsters: Papa’s Got A Brand New Bag.” – (Wiki)

    I take it that “incredibly well-funded” refers to the “monsters” putting up a legal fight. “Helpless” looks like spin, when the MRFF is there specifically to help those so “terrorized.” And that “terrorized” looks inappropriate when you consider the atrocities which normally bear the title, “terrorism.”

    I think I detect in those seven nominations, not extraordinary merit deserving a Nobel Peace Prize and recognition for worldwide praise, but a pocket-sized operation affecting few; and, of course, the MRFF’s hunger for publicity.

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    The books, I note, both earn money and attract publicity.

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    Anyone startled (as in “jaw-dropping”) by – see the blurb – “collection of hate mail, threats, and criticisms” evidently lives in a bubble and should get out more. Hemant Mehta’s advert for the book says:

    You get a sense of just how dangerous it can be to fight for church/state separation …

    He sould get out more too, and especially note – as one example among many – the vicious hate mail, threats, and criticisms directed by (presumably) atheists at Rebecca Watson of SkepChick when she directed mild remonstration towards a creep and advised others not to be similar creeps. (The incident quickly dubbed “Elevatorgate.”)

    Including from the atheist icon, Richard (“Dear Muslima”) Dawkins, if I remember right.

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    Dawkins is the other main disseminator of “hate mail” propaganda. Note that he just isn’t getting any hate mail nowadays, his last Hate Mail category mailbox entry was Krauss is ‘nothing not something’, Mon, May 20 2013 #(1933); yep, that’s 2013, six years with no further entries.

    https://www.richarddawkins.net/mailbox/

    We can be sure he’s not just saved up six years of nasties offline, ready to publicish them later in a money-spinning book or to publicise them in a propaganda video or two: on the same page you can see that his last Disagreement and Oddities category mailbox entry was Convert From Islam to Christianity, Tue, Feb 11 2014 #(2340); the last Fan Mail mailbox entry was You’ve changed my life for the better Apr 18, 2019 and the six Fan Mail entries in the last three years show that mail never stopped arriving in the RDF mailbox, it has but dried to a trickle.

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    Presumably only stupid people – such as Mehta’s readers, to whom he is advertising this book – will actually buy the book. For those who would like to see what the “collection of hate mail, threats, and criticisms” looks like, the MRFF has kindly and helpfully provided an Inbox tab on their website, with a link there saying “Click here to access selected hate mail from detractors” (pdf):

    http://militaryreligiousfreedom.org/mrff_mail_reports/Hatemail%20Compilation%20MAR08-APR19.pdf

  5. RobertM says:

    So I’ve heard that basically anyone can be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. You just have to have your name submitted by a “qualified nominator”. This includes people of lofty stature such as heads of state, members of national assemblies, former peace prize winners… and “University professors, professors emeriti and associate professors of history, social sciences, law, philosophy, theology, and religion”.

    https://www.nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/

    In other words as long as you can get a university professor on your side, you can get nominated year after year. This year there are 301 candidates, down from a high of 376 in 2016. Meaning it’s much less selective than, say, getting a spot on this year’s televised Democratic debates. There are approximately 5 times as many candidates for the Nobel Peace Prize each year as there are deaths from bee stings in the US. There approximately as many Nobel Peace Prize nominee in a single year as the all-time total number of people that have been voted into the baseball hall of fame.

    However we’ll need to wait 50 years to find out who kept nominating this MRFF over and over again.

  6. Ilíon says:

    Dhay:One wonders at the mentality and triviality of anyone who would nominate the MRFF for the Nobel Peace Prize; and do so seven times (so far.) Surely nobody would suppose a watchdog group and advocacy organization would stand comparison with – ….

    Yasser Arafat.

    Or, closer in time and space, Barack Obama.

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