When Activists Exploit the Mentally Ill

Over at the “Friendly” Atheist blog, activist Hemant Mehta is once again peddling his anti-Christian propaganda.

He writes a short click-bait posting entitled, “Watch This Christian Lady Swear Up a Storm While Preaching at Walmart Customers” and says:

Imagine you go to Walmart, do your shopping, and now you’re ready to pay for everything and leave.

That’s when the customer behind you begins to proselytize. She wants you to know all about Jesus. Awkward. Annoying. You want it to end. You politely tell her you’re not interested.

Then she gets mad. And she yells at you. And it turns out she swears like a goddamn pirate. (Sample line: “Shut your f**kin’ mouth, b*tch. If you don’t have Jesus Christ in your heart, I feel f**kin’ sorry for you.”)

He then posts the video and comments:

Nothing says the love of Christ more than a woman who drops the F-bomb in every sentence… Though I suppose that would make Joel Osteen‘s sermons a lot more interesting.

The best part is the end where (spoiler!) she’s handcuffed and taken away, to the delight of at least one applauding shopper.

No word yet on who she is. But on behalf of atheists everywhere, I want to thank her for everything she just did for our cause.

According to Mehta, this angry, hateful, religious woman is supposed to be representative of all Christians.  That’s why he thanks her for “everything she just did for our cause.”  That’s why he posts about “This Christian Lady.”  As someone who hates Christians, Mehta is always looking for ways to discredit them.

The problem for Mehta is that if you watch the video posted, it becomes quite clear very early on that the woman is mentally ill.  Even for a full-time propagandist, it’s quite a low blow to exploit the mentally ill like this.

But if we are to play this game, I can easily “one up” Mehta.  That is, while Mehta draws attention to the Christian Lady who Swears Up a Storm While Preaching at Walmart Customers, let me draw attention to……the Gay Atheist Murderer Who Engaged in Cannibalism.

Meet Mark Latunski:

The kilt-loving Latunski met a male hairstylist on Grindr named Kevin Bacon.  Latunski invited Kevin over to his house for some sex.  At some point during their interactions, Latunski stabbed Kevin in the back and slit his throat.  He then wrapped rope around the ankles of Mr. Bacon, and hung him from the rafters on the ceiling.

At that point, he cut off Mr. Bacon’s testicles and ate them.

Yet how do we know Latunski was an atheist?  Well,

In an August 2019 post, he wrote with a chart tracking sexual activity, “Men need sex to be healthy. Get that through your thick Evangelical Christian skulls. Don’t stop at my door unless you want a pile of ashes that every piece of Evangelical literature I could get my hands on was reduced to.”

Ah yes.  Sounds like a modern day atheist.

Nothing says Reason and Evidence more than an atheist who kills and eats his same-sexed lover… Though I suppose that would make Richard Dawkins sermons a lot more interesting.

The best part is the end where he’s handcuffed and taken away so he can’t kill any more people. 

See how the game is played?

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15 Responses to When Activists Exploit the Mentally Ill

  1. apollyon911 says:

    Atheism leads to nihilism…often through hedonism…

  2. Stardusty Psyche says:

    OP “See how the game is played?”
    Yes, like when satanists are equated with atheists on this blog.

  3. Dhay says:

    Stardusty Psyche > OP “See how the game is played?” Yes, like when satanists are equated with atheists on this blog.

    This is the latest:

    https://shadowtolight.wordpress.com/2019/12/29/an-atheist-ritual/

    I rather think it scorns the idea that (The Satanic Temple variety) satanists — those taking part in this officially sanctioned ritual, anyway — are atheists.

    *

    As I have pointed out in responses, as regards the other main variant, the Church of Satan, their official Rules acknowledge that members can (and presumably some do) use magic to achieve their aims, and warns against stopping once started:

    #7 Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.

    https://www.churchofsatan.com/eleven-rules-of-earth/

    So not a Church specifically for atheists.

    *

    So where did you get the idea that “satanists are equated with atheists on this blog”?

    If you want to claim that “satanists are equated with atheists on this blog”, you’re going to have to support that by quoting the relevant passages.

  4. Dhay says:

    I trust that if — if — any responders or readers here suppose with Stardusty Psyche that “satanists are equated with atheists on this blog”, this quote from the The Satanic Temple Arizona (branch) will clarify that satanists are in general definitely not atheists (“TST AZ makes exceptions for select applicants” “who join TST for just the activism”):

    The Satanic Temple is first and foremost a religious organization. Our metaphoric representation is the literary Satan best exemplified by Milton and the Romantic Satanists from Blake to Shelley to Anatole France. TST AZ makes exceptions for select applicants who do not self-identify as Satanists, but they are required to understand our philosophy and methods of practice prior to joining. Ritual practices are a common occurrence within Satanism and we urge those who do not understand the benefits of ritual to educate themselves on the subject.

    Despite having a clear focus on social activism, TST is primarily a religious organization with religious practices that involve ritual and discussion of Satanic philosophy. Those who join TST for just the activism are welcome to participate in our endeavors, however please refrain from making any disparaging remarks in regards to our Satanic ritual practices as they are a sincere form of cathartic expression for many Satanists. We welcome constructive questions and discussion on the topic to help enlighten those who wish to learn more.
    [My emphases — Dhay.]

    https://thesatanictemplearizona.com/contribute/official-membership-requirements/

    I hope this dispels any confusion.

  5. Michael says:

    Yes, like when satanists are equated with atheists on this blog.

    Just because I point out when the popular atheist blog, Friendly Atheist, celebrates and applauds the satanists, does not mean I am making any equation.

    And even if I thought most TST members were atheists does not mean any equation is being made, for it would not mean most atheists are TST members.

  6. Stardusty Psyche says:

    Atheists do not, and cannot, worship satan. It is a logical impossibility to both be an atheist and to also worship satan.

    A person who self identifies as both an atheist and a satanist either is not an atheist or is not a satan worshiper. The two are mutually exclusive.

  7. Dhay says:

    > Over at the “Friendly” Atheist blog, activist Hemant Mehta is once again peddling his anti-Christian propaganda.

    Dogs bark, governments tax, buses stop, and activist Hemant Mehta is once again peddling his anti-Christian propaganda.

    In his 22 January 2020 blog post entitled “When It Comes to the Holocaust, Atheists Know a Lot More Than Christians”, Mehta sums it up as:

    Of those four questions, Jewish participants got an average score of 3.2 correct. Atheists and agnostics? 3.1 apiece. Christians? A pathetic 2.1.

    https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/01/22/when-it-comes-to-the-holocaust-atheists-know-a-lot-more-than-christians/

    Why are atheists and agnostics nearly as high-scoring as Jews, and Christians so bad by comparison? What Mehta doesn’t highlight is that atheists — I’ll focus on them and assume, rightly or wrongly, that agnostics are similar — are a tiny, very untypical minority. This tiny minority (just 3% of the population) is predominantly male — other tables showed males scored higher than women — almost exclusively White — Blacks scored abysmally — and educated better for longer than average: whereas Christians are the average Joe.

    Other reasons why atheists can be expected to score more highly than Christians are that those who had been to a Holocaust memorial or museum (hence actively learned) scored markedly higher than those who had not are that you find museums in urban areas, especially the big cities — where atheists seem to concentrate — plus children of the better-educated are also more likely to go to museums; and personally knowing someone who is Jewish — often, in practice a nominal Jew, someone who is in all but name an atheist (think Jerry Coyne, Sam Harris, Steven Pinker…) like ‘real’ atheists — also makes for a markedly higher score.

    So there’s a perfect storm of reasons why atheists scoring unusually highly on knowledge of the Holocaust is what we would expect.

    Mehta omits all this, the headline results are much too convenient (as propaganda) to query.

    *

    Mehta tells his readers:

    None of this is to say one group is “smarter” than the other.

    Why has he backed off from crowing about “less-smart” Christians; I’m sure he would have loved to have done so, so why not? One obvious reason I alluded to above: ‘Historically Black’ protestants scored a really “pathetic” (as Mehta might say, except he doesn’t) 1.0 out of four **. If he started crowing about how stupid Christians must be, he could not escape pointing out (or leading his readers to point out) that Black Christians are obviously really, really stupid. But although they are Christians, hence worthy of being ostentatiously and publicly despised and criticised, as other Christians are by him, the overriding consideration for the “woke” Mehta is presumably that they are Black, hence not to be criticised. at. all.

    Mehta omits mentioning the ‘Historically Blacks’ score. If he went after Blacks he’d never live it down.

    ( ** I suspect Black people have enough pressing problems facing them right now that knowing details of the treatment of Jews seventy five years ago might well be of scant importance to them.)

    *

    Another obvious reason for backing away from saying one group is “smarter” than another is that the group with the second worse knowledge (or “smartness”) is the Nones. Because those people leaving Christianity don’t usually become atheists, they swell the Nones, swell those woollies who have all sorts of weird and irrational beliefs, the implication would be that it’s the dimmocks, the weirdos, the irrational people who leave Christianity.

    Mehta omits this.

    *

    I observe that if those leaving Christianity joined atheists in any numbers, instead of mostly joining the Nones, they’d really drag down the educational level, income level and rationality level of atheists as a group.

    *

    What else did Mehta omit? Ah yes, those who are Republican or Republican-leaning scored slightly higher than those who are Democrats or Democrat-leaning.

    How odd that the “Woke” Mehta, the atheist Mehta, the propagandistic Mehta, Mehta the hater of Republicans — how odd that he should omit these things.

  8. Michael says:

    Atheists do not, and cannot, worship satan. It is a logical impossibility to both be an atheist and to also worship satan.

    A person who self identifies as both an atheist and a satanist either is not an atheist or is not a satan worshiper. The two are mutually exclusive.

    These are the beliefs of dusty ol’ dinosaur atheism. Are you the Ambassadar of All Atheists? Do you Speak the Universal Consensus Among Atheists? I think not. You are a person with an opinion (atheism) and more opinions about what it means to be an atheist. Since the world does not revolve around you, the rest of the world (us) are not obligated to see it as you do.

  9. Stardusty Psyche says:

    Michael
    “These are the beliefs of dusty ol’ dinosaur atheism. Are you the Ambassadar of All Atheists? Do you Speak the Universal Consensus Among Atheists? I think not. You are a person with an opinion (atheism) and more opinions about what it means to be an atheist. Since the world does not revolve around you, the rest of the world (us) are not obligated to see it as you do.”
    Irrelevant nonsense.

    Words have generally agreed upon meanings. If you wish to make up gibberish meanings for words that is your choice, but then meaningful communication with the general public becomes impossible.

    Satan is a supernatural deity in folklore, a type of god, like so many notions of god, what most people would consider to be an evil god.

    An atheist by definition of the word does not believe in any god.

    It is logically impossible to be both an atheist and a satan worshiper in fact. One can claim to be both, either out of ignorance, self delusion, as a provocative prank, or as a legal device to gain certain benefits afforded to religious organizations.

    Such claims are false and made either out of ignorance or a desire to manipulate others with convoluted and self contradictory declarations.

    It is impossible to be, in point of fact, both an atheist and a satan worshiper.

  10. TFBW says:

    Stardusty operates within the confines of his own private universe, where he has the ultimate say over what words mean. He can therefore declare such things as, “a person who self identifies as both an atheist and a satanist either is not an atheist or is not a satan worshiper,” with absolute logical certainty, because it is an a priori analytic truth given his definitions of the terms.

  11. I saw that video the other day. It became apparent in the first 30 seconds that she wasn’t all there and had some serious problems. I don’t expect much from Mehta but this is low even for him

  12. Dhay says:

    In my response above looking at Hemant Mehta’s post, “When It Comes to the Holocaust, Atheists Know a Lot More Than Christians” I omitted a few things I had meant to say. The first is that what Mehta was using for his propaganda was Pew’s recent and very topical research entitled “What Americans Know About the Holocaust.”

    After “None of this is to say one group is “smarter” than the other” Mehta continued:

    But the fact that there’s such a difference between the groups suggests that pastors don’t discuss the Holocaust nearly as much as they should.

    https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/01/22/when-it-comes-to-the-holocaust-atheists-know-a-lot-more-than-christians/

    OK, atheists score higher because they do have pastors who discuss the Holocaust a lot — pull the other one.

    I’m tempted to say that, given today’s political realities, some Christian leaders are hesitant to bring up the clearest example there is of actual religious persecution since it might weaken their own argument that they’re victims of it.

    “…today’s political realities”. Now that’s waffle. Or a dog whistle. Looking at the rest of the sentence, why exactly should knowing where religious persecution can lead not make “leaders” very wary of potential persecutors? They are around — one or two pop up on S2L from time to time, eg arguing (like Richard Dawkins) that parents should not be allowed to teach their children the parents’ religion.

    Instead of the anecdotal “em>some Christian leaders”, why does not Mehta teach his readers the mainstream view, the Christian consensus. But I know the answer to that: Mehta is engaging in polemics, and the first casualty of war is truth.

    Or maybe we shouldn’t be surprised that the people least likely to accept reality are also the least likely to know basic facts about history.

    Presumably “reality” is the “today’s political realities” just mentioned. Or is it? Looks like a Rorschach Blot to me, it can be anything or nothing. Mehta is ambiguous and incoherent.

    What is happening here is that Mehta is drawing a correlation between “accept[ing] reality” (whatever that might mean) and poor knowledge of history. Returning to the very, very low score (average:1.0 right out of 4 questions) of ‘Historically Black’ protestants, is Mehta asserting that Blacks are very, very unlikely to accept reality? Really?

    Some factors increase the likelihood of getting these questions right. They include having a formal education,…

    Actually, there’s nothing in the Pew data or discussion about formal education except “college graduates get an average of 2.8 out of the four multiple-choice questions right, while those whose formal education ended with high school correctly answer 1.7 questions.” That’s about the length of formal education, not whether there was or wasn’t a formal education. Mehta has dashed this post out thoughtlessly, not fully understanding it himself and misleading his readers. He’s a propagandist, he’s a polemicist and he’s a hack writer.

  13. Michael says:

    Stardusty, your a priori arguments falls apart in two key places.

    Words have generally agreed upon meanings. If you wish to make up gibberish meanings for words that is your choice, but then meaningful communication with the general public becomes impossible.
    Satan is a supernatural deity in folklore, a type of god, like so many notions of god, what most people would consider to be an evil god.
    An atheist by definition of the word does not believe in any god.

    Problem #1: Satan as a “god” is not an agreed upon meaning for the general public. Christians (and Muslims) , for example, do not view satan as any type of god. And even among the satanists, there doesn’t appear to be such belief. We have seen that The Satanic Temple does not believe that satan is a god. But this also holds true of the older LaVeyan satanism. From Wikipedia:

    LaVey was an atheist, rejecting the existence of all gods.[32] LaVey and his Church do not espouse a belief in Satan as an entity who literally exists,[33] and LaVey did not encourage the worship of Satan as a deity.[34] Instead, the use of Satan as a central figure is intentionally symbolic.[35] LaVey sought to cement his belief system within the secularist world-view that derived from natural science, thus providing him with an atheistic basis with which to criticize Christianity and other supernaturalist beliefs.[36] He legitimized his religion by highlighting what he claimed was its rational nature, contrasting this with what he saw as the supernaturalist irrationality of established religions.[37]

    Since Satanism does not entail a belief in Satan as a god, it is not only logically possible to be both an atheist and a Satanist, these days, it is common to be both.

    It is logically impossible to be both an atheist and a satan worshiper in fact. One can claim to be both, either out of ignorance, self delusion, as a provocative prank, or as a legal device to gain certain benefits afforded to religious organizations.
    Such claims are false and made either out of ignorance or a desire to manipulate others with convoluted and self contradictory declarations.
    It is impossible to be, in point of fact, both an atheist and a satan worshiper.

    Problem #2. You are the one, the only one, importing the notion of a satan worshipper into the argument. I never made any claim about satan worshippers. And a satanist is not necessarily a satan worshipper. One can be an atheist and a satanist. In fact, it’s common for satanists to be atheists.

  14. Michael says:

    I saw that video the other day. It became apparent in the first 30 seconds that she wasn’t all there and had some serious problems. I don’t expect much from Mehta but this is low even for him

    For the diehards, here’s a video of the same woman arguing about something else 4 years ago. Fast forward to 3:45 or so and see for yourself

  15. pennywit says:

    Clearly disturbed. She has deluded herself into believing she can pull off the Funky Chicken. She lacks the requisite funkiness.

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