Is There a Connection Between Atheism and Antifa?

I’m sure most readers know all about the thuggish violence that is perpetuated by Antifa. But I’ve begun to wonder about the relationship between atheism and Antifa.

Over at Quora, according to Lucca Fehn,

Antifa has nothing to do with atheism.

Hold on there.  We are constantly told that atheism is simply a lack of belief in God.  Given that belief in God does not seem to be part of Antifa’s ideology and violent activities, such belief is lacking and thus they are behaving as atheists.  Their violent attacks and opposition to free speech are atheistic.

At least according to this definition.

But maybe there is more.

According to Fehn:

As far as I can tell, antifa’s uniting trait is that they anarcho-communists who oppose nationalism.

We know as a matter of historical fact that communism and atheism have been strongly linked.  Might this also be the case with “anarcho-communism?”

If Fhen is correct, according to Wiki:

Anarcho-communism developed out of radical socialist currents after the French Revolution,[23][24] but was first formulated as such in the Italian section of the First International.[25] The theoretical work of Peter Kropotkin took importance later as it expanded and developed pro-organizationalist and insurrectionary anti-organizationalist sections.

And:

Anarcho-communism´s main theorist Peter Kropotkin, “was a child of the Enlightenment and the Scientific Revolution, and assumed that religion would be replaced by science and that the Church as well as the State would be abolished; he was particularly concerned with the development of a secular system of ethics which replaced supernatural theology with natural biology”.[1]

So the main theorist of anarcho-communism was someone who sounds just like today’s New Atheist.  Add in the far left political views and it sure looks like…….a PZ Myers.

Anyway, I can’t say for sure if such a connection exists.  But given this brief preliminary look, it does seem to be a question worth looking into.

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11 Responses to Is There a Connection Between Atheism and Antifa?

  1. apollyon911 says:

    Given they torched a church I’d say it’s a legit connection…

  2. StardustyPsyche says:

    apollyon911
    How do you know that wasn’t a Muslim? A lot of Muslims hate atheists even more than Christians.

  3. Dhay says:

    apollyon911 > Given they torched a church I’d say it’s a legit connection…

    If you are referring to the torched church I commented about recently…

    https://shadowtolight.wordpress.com/2019/07/11/atheists-believe-without-evidence/#comment-36619

    … I’d insert “might have”.

    And even if I were certain I’d add that a rogue individual or a small group is not a large group nor atheists in general.

    (In the absence of clubschadenfreude to add balance (and ranting over-balance) I’d better take on some small part of her role, in the interest of fairness.)

  4. Mark Plus says:

    I seriously doubt that most of these anarchist larpers have read the theoretical literature about anarchism.

  5. Dhay says:

    > So the main theorist of anarcho-communism was someone who sounds just like today’s New Atheist. Add in the far left political views and it sure looks like…….a PZ Myers.

    “I am antifa” writes Myers, on cue:

    As much as one can be, given that antifa is not an organization. I don’t have a membership card. I’ve never paid dues. I’ve never attended a meeting. I’m not part of a cell. There is no hierarchy. I have failed to punch any Nazis. …

    https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2020/06/01/i-am-antifa/

    Aw, the man’s just a cuddly toy bear. Except… when an influencer pumps out post after post detesting Christians — Friendly Atheist authors — or applauding antifa style individual and collective violent protest — Myers — the influencers’ influenced will be influenced.

    Of course, there’s the myth of the typical atheist being a rationalist freethinker Bright skeptic who thinks for themself guided solely by Science and Reason, but I think that is a myth: atheists are people and sheeple like everybody else.

  6. TFBW says:

    There’s a correlation between atheism and left-wing politics. Given choices of Conservative, Moderate, or Liberal, the portion of people who also say that they do not believe in God increases markedly at the Liberal end. I’d expect that trend to continue at the Far Left (e.g. Anarcho-Communists).

    source: https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/political-ideology/#belief-in-god

  7. Ilíon says:

    Dhay:Of course, there’s the myth of the typical atheist being a rationalist freethinker Bright skeptic who thinks for themself guided solely by Science and Reason, but I think that is a myth: atheists are people and sheeple like everybody else.

    *Like* everyone else? Oh, they ramp up sheeplehood way passed “like everybody else”.

  8. I can’t remember who said it, but the human mind can’t just switch off its religious impulses when a person stops believing in God. Something else inevitably takes over as the central driving purpose and the source of meaning, morality and identity. For many young people that something is political activism.

    This raises two serious problems:

    1. Poltiical activists don’t have a self-sacrificing, humble figure like Jesus to look to as an example.

    2. If a person finds meaning and purpose in political activism, they aren’t going to be satisfied when/if the political change they seek is actually accomplished. They’ll find some other political cause to get behind or perhaps push the original one even further. They aren’t interested in making the world a better place for other people. They’re only interested in bringing a sense of meaning into their own godless lives.

  9. StardusytPsyche says:

    “Poltiical activists don’t have a self-sacrificing, humble figure like Jesus to look to as an example.”
    I guess you are not aware of the subject of one of our national holidays, a man who was jailed for political protest against racial discrimination. I mean, how wonderfully great is a country that passes a law to make a national holiday in remembrance of a man who was arrested and jailed for protesting racially discriminatory laws and racist police officers?

  10. Archon's Den says:

    ‘Past’, not ‘passed.’ 🙄

  11. Ilíon says:

    Oh, you poor thing. I wrote “passed” because I meant that word.

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