Yet Another Epstein-Atheism Connection

It’s been some time since we last explored the JeffreyEpstein-Atheism connection. Yet with arrest of Ghislaine Maxwell, it looks like we’ll be learning some new things.

Minksy was a New Atheist type:

Lederman, Leon M.; Scheppler, Judith A. (2001). “Marvin Minsky: Mind Maker”. Portraits of Great American Scientists. Prometheus Books. p. 74. . Another area where he “goes against the flow” is in his spiritual beliefs. As far as religion is concerned, he’s a confirmed atheist. “I think it [religion] is a contagious mental disease. … The brain has a need to believe it knows a reason for things.

When you are a pedophile scientist participating in the sex trafficking of young girls, it’s not a good idea to accuse others of having a “mental disease.”   Y’see, the ones with the “contagious mental disease” were the associates of atheist Jeffrey Epstein.


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6 Responses to Yet Another Epstein-Atheism Connection

  1. D says:

    > “I think it [religion] is a contagious mental disease.”

    Looks like thinking of religion as a contagious mental disease is a contagious mental disease. Perhaps this atheist mind-virus should be added to the DSM so it can be diagnosed and treated.

  2. Dhay says:

    The above response (in moderation) is from Dhay, not “D”. Aagh.

  3. Clearly any worldview or philosophy that stops a person from having sex with whomever they want, whenever they want, in whatever way they want, is a contagious mental disease.

  4. apollyon911 says:

    When you dig a little you discover that an atheist is someone who doesn’t want to have certain behaviors restricted. Often, an atheist became an atheist at an early age and their mentality of God and religion is about as developed as that of an adolescent (they make no effort to educate themselves further).

    There are exceptions, but they are rare.

  5. RobertM says:

    I had previously known of Marvin Minsky as the inventor of the confocal microscope, which is a legitimately clever thing, but it sounds like that was a sidelight and he was very influential in artificial intelligence- not my field at all but I think it’s given over to a certain amount of pseudoscience and woo. According to Wikipedia, Minsky was also signatory to the Scientists’ Open Letter on Cryonics, ie. freezing corpses or severed heads in hope of a future resurrection mediated by advanced technology. And yet Christians are the ones ones with a mind virus? And Christians are the ones that believe in wish-fulfillment fantasies about life after death?

    Another data point on the claim that when men stop believing in God, they don’t believe in nothing, they believe in anything. And also in some cases, feel they are free to do anything. If I start free-associating, there is also an interesting connection mentioned between Marvin Minsky, Arthur C Clarke, and HAL from 2001: A Space Odyssey, which leads straight to Nietzsche. I’m not sure if HAL was meant to be the Übermensch, or man’s failed and flawed attempt to create the Übermensch, but it all points to this transhumanist and post-morality gobbledygook.

  6. Dhay says:

    In his 03 October 2020 blog post entitled “Should mental-health professionals diagnose Trump as mentally ill?” – no, says Jerry Coyne, who gives reasons why not – Coyne quotes the American Psychiatric Association’s “Goldwater Rule”:

    After the diagnosing of Trump started in 2016, the APA issued a statement in January, 2018 that reaffirmed the Goldwater Rule:

    Today, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) reiterates its continued and unwavering commitment to the ethical principle known as “The Goldwater Rule.” We at the APA call for an end to psychiatrists providing professional opinions in the media about public figures whom they have not examined, whether it be on cable news appearances, books, or in social media. Armchair psychiatry or the use of psychiatry as a political tool is the misuse of psychiatry and is unacceptable and unethical.

    The ethical principle, in place since 1973, guides physician members of the APA to refrain from publicly issuing professional medical opinions about individuals that they have not personally evaluated in a professional setting or context. Doing otherwise undermines the credibility and integrity of the profession and the physician-patient relationship. Although APA’s ethical guidelines can only be enforced against APA members, we urge all psychiatrists, regardless of membership, to abide by this guidance in respect of our patients and our profession.

    A proper psychiatric evaluation requires more than a review of television appearances, tweets, and public comments. Psychiatrists are medical doctors; evaluating mental illness is no less thorough than diagnosing diabetes or heart disease. The standards in our profession require review of medical and psychiatric history and records and a complete examination of mental status. Often collateral information from family members or individuals who know the person well is included, with permission from the patient.

    “The Goldwater Rule embodies these concepts and makes it unethical for a psychiatrist to render a professional opinion to the media about a public figure unless the psychiatrist has examined the person and has proper authorization to provide the statement,” said APA CEO and Medical Director Saul Levin, M.D., M.P.A. “APA stands behind this rule.”

    I generally agree, for professionals should behave professionally. Doctors don’t diagnose patients without an exam, and psychiatrists are doctors. …

    The prerequisite before making a diagnosis for any individual (including any POTUS) is a thorough examination and assessment of the individual themself, and a thorough examination and assessment of their medical and psychiatric history, possibly including a thorough examination and assessment of information provided by their family and friends. It is not possible for even a well qualified and experienced mental health practitioner to reach a reliable diagnosis without those examinations, therefore a remote diagnosis is unethical (and I would call it pseudoscience or pseudo-psychiatry.)

    But fools rush in where highly qualified and experienced and ethical mental health professionals know not to tread: –

    > As far as religion is concerned, [Marvin Minsky]’s a confirmed atheist. “I think it [religion] is a contagious mental disease. … The brain has a need to believe it knows a reason for things.”

    Minsky, Richard Dawkins, Peter Boghossian, the several hundred Street Epistemologists who have explicitly or implicitly swallowed Boghossian’s Kool-Aid, and many, many another anti-theist atheist – these inexperienced and incompetent non-professionals where mental health and psychiatric diagnostic ability is concerned have no hesitation in flouting medical ethics and no hesitation in announcing, not that religion is like a mental virus, or like a mental illness, or like a delusion, or like a contagious mental disease, but that religion is a mental virus/illness/disease/delusion.

    Well, well: what the genuinely competent and ethical won’t do regarding a single individual – diagnose their mental health remotely, without a comprehensive examination – incompetent and unethical atheist charlatans have no hesitation doing sight unseen regarding a group numbering billions – every religious person whatsoever anywhere and everywhere in the world.

    I rather think their diagnoses reflects badly on themselves, not on any of the religions which are their target.

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