Social Justice Atheists Take Lead in Warming the Planet

I’d classify this as the eye-opening story of the day:

Looking at global aggregates, decades of efforts to reduce carbon emissions appear to have made no difference.  On global aggregate numbers, it’s hard to gainsay that conclusion. Over the decade through 2018, emissions increased by 12%, or 4.5 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide. A decade or so of further pollution at that level will eliminate all possibility of avoiding catastrophic warming.

Break out the numbers by country, however, and a very different picture emerges. Some 89% of the additional greenhouse gases came from just two countries: China, which alone accounted for 69% of the increase, and India. Emissions from the EU, Japan and U.S. fell, and by 2018 were lower than they were in the 1990s.

Wow.  So it really doesn’t matter what politicians and bureaucrats do in the US or EU.  Not when China and India account for 90% of the carbon.  In fact, if the US and EU implement a ban on fossil fuels, all it might accomplish is to make fossil fuels even cheaper so that China and India further increase the amount of carbon being released.  In other words, those trying to implement a fossil fuel ban here in the West might be making it worse.

That’s why the climate and energy plans that will be presented in China’s 14th Five Year Plan this week represent the most important policies being made anywhere in determining the fate of the planet. If they live up to the promise of President Xi Jinping’s pledge to reduce the country’s emissions to net zero by 2060, we may have to start lifting our expectations of what’s possible in terms of decarbonization.

LOL.  What kind of gullible fool actually believes President Xi Jinping will honor this pledge?  Since when did atheistic communist countries ever be truthful on such important matters?  They can’t even tell thr truth about the number of covid cases they have.

Time to face the music.  Since the ability to avert “catastrophic warming” is dependent on China, .catastrophic warming is inevitable. 

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12 Responses to Social Justice Atheists Take Lead in Warming the Planet

  1. Kevin says:

    I like how we have yet another decade after passing multiple deadlines of being too late.

  2. Andre says:

    “Not when China and India account for 90% of the carbon.”

    No, not 90% of the carbon. 90% of the additional carbon over the past decade. The U.S. and China are still, by far, the leading producers of carbon in the world. And the U.S. is still, by far, the #1 carbon producer per capita.

  3. In the SJW mindset, the West is responsible for (for which read: capable of fixing) all of the world’s evils. Criticising China or India is probably racist.

  4. Andre says:

    Small clarification: the source I googled says the U.S. is the #1 carbon emitter per capita “amongst countries with sizeable populations”. So, for example, Qatar has higher per capita.

    Nonetheless, that doesn’t detract from the fact that the U.S. is the #2 total carbon emitter (by far) whose per capita emission is more than twice that of China.

  5. Michael says:

    No, not 90% of the carbon. 90% of the additional carbon over the past decade. The U.S. and China are still, by far, the leading producers of carbon in the world. And the U.S. is still, by far, the #1 carbon producer per capita.

    I don’t think the atmosphere cares about your per capita qualification. What matters is the sheer amount that is dumped into the atmosphere. Each year, China dumps 10 GT into the atmosphere compared to the USA’s 5.4 GT.

    and then there is this:

    World_fossil_carbon_dioxide_emissions_six_top_countries_and_confederations

    And did you see the linked article which talks about How China used more cement in 3 years than the U.S. did in the entire 20th Century?

    And yes, 70% of the additional carbon over the past decade has come from China.

    What this all means is that if one is seriously and honestly alarmed about climate change, they will recognize China is the #1 problem. If, on the other hand, the concern about climate change is just a disguise for anti-Americanism/Wokeism, then they will insist the US is the #1 problem.

  6. Andre says:

    Unfortunately, for someone who believes that the need to transition away from fossil fuels is based on a leftist agenda and not on scientific evidence, it is very unlikely that anything someone says will change their mind about anything related to climate change.

    It is factually untrue that “China and India account for 90% of the carbon”. However that fact seems to have made no dent at all, causing no correction or reconsideration of what you said. Perhaps I can tell you some of the mistakes I’ve made so that you’ll let your guard down.

    It is not true that reducing U.S. carbon emissions will not matter. The U.S. is #2 emitter in the world, by far. Every billion ton of CO2 matters. Every one. Slowing the temperature rise even a little can have a world-changing effect, especially considering the accelerative nature of global warming (smaller polar ice caps causes less reflected sunlight causes more warming causes smaller polar ice caps causes…).

    “if one is seriously and honestly alarmed about climate change, they will recognize China is the #1 problem.”

    Who doesn’t recognize that China is the #1 problem? China being #1 does not mean that everyone else should do nothing.

    In contrast to your take on it, the Bloomberg article is optimistic about China and the rest of the world, one reason being that now “renewables are the cheapest source of power almost everywhere”. It is hard to see your point because it diverges so greatly from the source you cited. Your point is that the U.S. should do nothing because …? Because the need to act on climate change is based on a leftist agenda and not on scientific evidence?

  7. Michael says:

    Unfortunately, for someone who believes that the need to transition away from fossil fuels is based on a leftist agenda and not on scientific evidence, it is very unlikely that anything someone says will change their mind about anything related to climate change.

    Unfortunately for you, I am not someone who believes the need to transition away from fossil fuels is based on a leftist agenda and not on scientific evidence. You are dishonestly putting words in my mouth. Do you commonly try to discredit others by lying about them?

    Your problem is that I don’t share in your authoritarian tendencies and insist the only way to “transition” is to put the State’s boot on someone’s throat.

    It is factually untrue that “China and India account for 90% of the carbon”. However that fact seems to have made no dent at all, causing no correction or reconsideration of what you said. Perhaps I can tell you some of the mistakes I’ve made so that you’ll let your guard down.

    Itching for a “gotcha” moment, eh? Look, I’ve established you are the type that will take words out of context to score points – see here for a solid example.

    In this case, I was obviously paraphrasing from the previous sentence quoted. What’s next? Complain that I wrote 90% instead of 89%?

    It is not true that reducing U.S. carbon emissions will not matter. The U.S. is #2 emitter in the world, by far. Every billion ton of CO2 matters. Every one. Slowing the temperature rise even a little can have a world-changing effect, especially considering the accelerative nature of global warming (smaller polar ice caps causes less reflected sunlight causes more warming causes smaller polar ice caps causes…).

    If you look at the figure I provide in the last comment, while the US has cut 1 billion tons off their annual emissions since 2005, China has increased its emissions by over 7 billion in the same time frame. If further cuts from the US are more than drowned out by further larger increases from China, I don’t share your faith that “every one” matters.

    Let me see if I have this straight. Say the US cuts to 4 GT, but China increases to 12 GT (China says it will not peak until 2030). Is your argument as follows: “Well, 16 GT is better than 17?”

    Who doesn’t recognize that China is the #1 problem? China being #1 does not mean that everyone else should do nothing.

    There is no evidence you recognize China as the #1 problem. In fact, you come across as someone trying to defend them and get attention off them.

    In contrast to your take on it, the Bloomberg article is optimistic about China and the rest of the world, one reason being that now “renewables are the cheapest source of power almost everywhere”. It is hard to see your point because it diverges so greatly from the source you cited.

    LOL. Of course you would be optimistic about China and its words. 😉

    Your point is that the U.S. should do nothing because …?

    I never said the US should do nothing. My point is if one is seriously and honestly alarmed about climate change, they will recognize China is the #1 problem. If, on the other hand, the concern about climate change is just a disguise for anti-Americanism/Wokeism, then they will insist the US is the #1 problem.

    Because the need to act on climate change is based on a leftist agenda and not on scientific evidence?

    It depends on what you mean by “the need to act.” Does it mean putting people in prison for using gas stoves?

  8. TFBW says:

    Who doesn’t recognize that China is the #1 problem?

    Q: If China is the number one problem, why do climate activists obsess over the US?

    A: Because China is already Communist.

    To be fair, though, climate activists don’t just obsess over the US. They obsess over all the Western Liberal Democracies.

  9. Isaac says:

    Nothing’s going to get any better without nuclear power.
    If you want to criticize something about the U.S. policy, let’s criticize the fact that America is tragically ignorant about the superiority of nuclear power compared to other “green” energy sources (all of which produce more waste and require more resources while being less reliable.)
    At least China seems to be moving in the right direction. We’re actually tearing down nuclear plants and refusing to build new ones.

  10. Andre says:

    Um, what? Your response is a gish gallop of nonsense. There is just too much to address.

    You say that people do not recognize China is the #1 problem. I asked who doesn’t recognize that, and your response is … me? That’s some weird shit. You’re just throwing in some nonsense to avoid answering the question.

    Now, tell me:

    Who doesn’t recognize that China is the #1 problem?
    Who has proposed putting people in prison for using gas stoves?

    If you can’t answer that, then you’re just creating strawmen.

  11. Kevin says:

    Andre’s dodge on what constitutes the “need to act” and what that means for the average person is a reminder that very few people actually want to answer questions. Much easier to insult and criticize someone else than to open yourself up to criticism.

  12. Michael says:

    Um, what? Your response is a gish gallop of nonsense. There is just too much to address.

    In other words, you tried to misrepresent me as “someone who believes that the need to transition away from fossil fuels is based on a leftist agenda and not on scientific evidence” and that blew up in your face.

    You say that people do not recognize China is the #1 problem.

    Er, no, this is what I said: “What this all means is that if one is seriously and honestly alarmed about climate change, they will recognize China is the #1 problem. If, on the other hand, the concern about climate change is just a disguise for anti-Americanism/Wokeism, then they will insist the US is the #1 problem.”

    I asked who doesn’t recognize that, and your response is … me? That’s some weird shit. You’re just throwing in some nonsense to avoid answering the question.

    Actually, I said, “There is no evidence you recognize China as the #1 problem.”

    Think like an atheist: there is no evidence god exists, therefore I do not believe there is a god.
    Now, it’s there is no evidence Andre recognizes China as the #1 problem, therefore I do not believe Andre recognizes China as the #1 problem.

    To that we can add something else I noticed – “you come across as someone trying to defend them and get attention off them.”

    Instead of acting all offended, why not just put forth your evidence?

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